Sue Rice, former NSRLP Coordinator

Sue Rice was the original Project Coordinator at the NSRLP, working with Julie on the groundbreaking National SRL Study from 2011-13, and consulting to the US study from 2014-15. Many of the SRLs who participated in the study, or who come to NSRLP after 2013 to share their experience, have met, talked or corresponded with Sue, who was the welcoming and empathetic face of first the study, and then the project. In this conversation, Sue shares her reflections on what we learned from going on the road to talk to SRLs about their experiences, as well as what it was like for her as an “outsider” (Sue is not a lawyer) to work on these issues. As we completed the podcast this week, we were struck by the many similarities between Sue’s observations about the emotional and physical toll of self-representation, and the latest report just published by the Costs of Justice project at Osgoode Hall. Finally, our condolences to the family and friends of Simon Fodden, retired legal scholar, and founder of Canada’s premier online legal forum, SLAW.

Related Links:

Julie’s original SRL study from 2013

American version of the SRL study (IAALS)

Latest “Costs of Justice” report on physical and mental health (Canadian Forum on Civil Justice)

Simon Fodden memorial (York University)

Julie says “hi!” from Australia

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